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Roger Beal's avatar

Nimrata's case is Soetero redux.

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Raymond Morace's avatar

That's why Democrats are supporting her.

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Ted's avatar

Yes they are!

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Harold Hutchcraft's avatar

He will probably end up being an ambulance chaser if he ever passes the bar exam.

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Harold Hutchcraft's avatar

But yet, he was elected president. Like I said before, if Paul Ingrassia thinks he is right, he should file a suit in court, otherwise he should admit he doesn't know what he is talking about. I know that is impossible because he died September 16, 2019. This forum is a hoax. Look it up on the internet. How can a dead man put up posts?

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Ted's avatar

If he died in 2019 then why was he on Steve Bannon’s show today talking about the Fani Willis ethics problems?

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Harold Hutchcraft's avatar

Dear Paul,

If you are so sure you are tight, then file a lawsuit. If you don't file a lawsuit then you know you will loose. If what you are saying is true then Obama was not eligible to be president. Only one of his parents was a U S citizen. They will probably shoot down your argument with 8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth.

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Ted's avatar

Obama wasn’t eligible as a born dual citizen. The founders would have never permitted a British subject to be President.

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Ted's avatar

Congress had and they denied citizenship to Native Americans due to their being subject to tribal jurisdiction, the court have viewed citizenship as anything Congress says it is.

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Brandy's avatar

I think you are right on this after reading from you and others that have disagreed. More importantly, I think the Supreme Court would side with your interpretation. Someone needs to get this in front.

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Ted's avatar

That’s a really good link. What people don’t realize that dual citizens are subject to the jurisdiction of the foreign country or countries to which they hold citizenship, that is mandated by the UD government, so if Harris and Haley ever held foreign citizenship they wouldn’t even meet the 14th amendment’s citizenship requirement which states subject to the jurisdiction thereof which means complete jurisdiction of the United States.

This is what people don’t understand, if one’s parents are US citizens then they’re foreign nationals and likely acquire their parents citizenship automatically.

The founders would have never allowed person who owed allegiance to and were subject to a foreign power to be President.

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Ted's avatar

Both of Trump’s parents were US citizens when he was born.

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Ted's avatar

Dual Citizenship doesn't imply divided loyalty it explicitly is. The US Govt states that dual citizens are required repeat required to owe allegiance to all countries to which they hold citizenship and they're also subject to their jurisdiction.

So dual citizenship is in fact divided loyalty.

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Harold Hutchcraft's avatar

OK different Paul. My bad. Now if Paul Ingrassia thinks he knows so much about immigration law he should take his legal expertise and go to court.. It doesn't cost much to file a case. Either put up or shut up.. How about it Paul? Let me hear from you. Put your money where your mouth is. If you are such a legal expert, you should be able to win your case.

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IAN A MACPHERSON's avatar

Ingrassia lacks litigant standing.

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Ted's avatar

Paul leaves out 2 very important items, one is Resolution 511 where Congress the entity responsible for establishing what citizenship is declared in 2008 that John McCain was a Natural Born Citizen because his parents were Americans citizens. Two Constitutional experts wrote legal opinions supporting Resolution 511 which were entered into the Congressional Record.

Paul also misses the really important question does Haley hold or has she ever held Indian or Canadian citizenship? If either is true she wouldn’t be a Natural Born Citizen for she would be required to obey their laws and she would be subject to their jurisdiction, these are requirements as mandated by The US State Department they’re not optional! So she wouldn’t even qualify for citizenship under the 14th amendment. It’s unquestionable the founders would not have allowed a dual citizen to be President, that’s precisely the situation they wanted to avoid. They didn’t want the Presidency in the hands of individuals who had foreign allegiances and dual citizens possess those very divided allegiances.

The RNC should compel Haley to state whether at any point in her life she has held foreign citizenship, if she refuses the RNC should remove her from the nomination process, if she affirms she has then she’s not a Natural Born Citizen and the RNC should remove her from the process.

The Secretary’s of States across the country should require candidates to state in writing that they are in fact Natural Born Citizens if they don’t they shouldn’t be allowed on the ballot.

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Roger Beal's avatar

The RNC's main self-assigned task at this point is to deny Trump the nomination by any means possible. Please do not look to Ronna Romney for constitutional adherence, nor for logic.

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ChillyDogg's avatar

If her parents weren't legal permanent residents she shouldn't be a citizen at all.

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Ted's avatar

It doesn’t matter if they’re legal permanent residents they weren’t US citizens when she was born so she’s not a Natural Born Citizen.

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darulharb's avatar

"Mr. Chief Justice FULLER, with whom concurred Mr. Justice HARLAN, dissenting."

(Unless you happen to know that Justice Harlan actually wrote the dissent in Wong Kim Ark, it appears to be credited to Chief Justice Melville Fuller, with John Marshall Harlan concurring.)

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David Cashion's avatar

Say no to nationwide voter ID.

When you give up liberties for safety you have neither.

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